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arucart
02-27-2010, 10:05 PM
Only started drawing maybe a week ago but need some help

http://img225.imageshack.us/i/photo366.jpg/
critques, ideas on how to make it feel more female just general advice

http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/8099/photo366.jpg

its a very large picture sorry ^^;

Sunstone28
02-28-2010, 12:30 AM
looking like a good start so far

arucart
02-28-2010, 05:46 AM
its for a character design thing so i need to do all views, annotations, different ideas such as eyes etc

Hamst3rdanc3
02-28-2010, 07:22 AM
To make characters look more female or more male, one has to know basic facts first. Facts as in proportions, facial features/body structure/body language that makes people look more manly or more woman ect. There's lots of guides online about different stuff.

Now that I think about it, BODY LANGUAGE is very important in art. Since art on paper doesn't move like movies or cartoons, it's difficult to nail down the feeling you want into it. With body language you can send so many different messages to the viewer / the other character in the picture :)

I'd suggest you start with basics of human proportions. When you learn those, you can start shape shifting it with better understanding of it :D


OK I'm talking alot today. Back to the picture!
The thing that makes your character desing known to be female, is the boobs currently. With animal heads it's difficult since it's lacking all other "woman" facial features except eyes. So I'd say adding sexy eye lashes would make difference.

What it comes to proportions, her arm is too short :) Elbow reaches down to hip bone about. And from elbow to hand and finger tips up to crotch's level.

:tea: Sorry for long post

Vydos
02-28-2010, 11:06 AM
haha it's amusing. Seeing your drawing reminded me of how I started drawing and my very first drawing(when I decided I wanted to go serious). For a first drawing it's not bad and learning to use shapes is a good thing, except you should do the same thing when you draw the body.

Basically what Hamsterdance says to improve the drawing is everything I wanted to say myself. But I'll add something to it anyway. If you want to go far into drawing then follow Hamsterdance's instructions. If you're planning to just draw here and there, than how to draw manga books and other online tutorials will work but remember they'll only get you so far and your drawings will never look like the ones that did actually study anatomy and proportions.

Anyway keep it up. :mime:

arucart
02-28-2010, 01:07 PM
i see what you mean

did this

http://img708.imageshack.us/img708/8213/photo367.jpg

yeah proportions just seem off to me

tail placement from the master jay naylor D:

http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/267/photo369y.jpg
http://img717.imageshack.us/img717/2902/photo368.jpg

Basically its a character design assignment so have to flesh out a character to a point that someone could make a 3D model of it
sorry for all the scribbles my hand writing isn't great ^^;
one last drawing before sleep and heroes!
http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/6976/photo370n.jpg
sorry that its rotated weirdly stupid phone
Time to watch heroes then sleep:hero:

Rowdy Roegadyn
02-28-2010, 09:20 PM
That last drawing reminds me of a High Tail Hall 2 character... I think?

Gulkeeva
02-28-2010, 09:58 PM
That last drawing reminds me of a High Tail Hall 2 character... I think?


yeah it sort of does look like one O_o

Rowdy Roegadyn
02-28-2010, 10:07 PM
Actually, I think it is! Definitely, the shirt and the skirt match, and the face does too. I'm guessing Arucart needed something to practice huh? XD

Don't worry, I don't judge. I still think its good.

arucart
03-20-2010, 10:49 PM
http://img213.imageshack.us/i/photo381v.jpg/
Need help with this pic is it any good for one and need some hair ideas

http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/5352/photo379i.jpg
Sup G!

http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/4281/photo380w.jpg
Still trying to get them proportions right >.> Hands are still draft there

http://img121.imageshack.us/img121/7748/photo375r.jpg

bit of a weird perspective


http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/117/photo374.jpg
eye trial

just tried a different style and hair

http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/2697/photo373n.jpg

not much really was trying something didn't work to well
http://img717.imageshack.us/img717/7286/photo372m.jpg


ROBOT UNICORN !
http://img532.imageshack.us/img532/7628/photo371.jpg

Decided to try something very different, critique please :)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/hampie/Photo376.jpg

Hamst3rdanc3
03-21-2010, 04:43 AM
I hope you don't mind me for doing some red lining over two of your works. I find it alot easier to explain that way instead of typing words.

arucart
04-04-2010, 12:31 PM
its all good don't mind at all anything to get better helps :)
Hm having problems working hair around the ears


http://img340.imageshack.us/i/photo388.jpg/

any better :D?

Hamst3rdanc3
04-04-2010, 02:17 PM
For that my dear, only way I can help you is to say that you have to go google yourself long fur animal photos to see how their fur goes around the ear. :dunno:

http://www.doggiesaccessoriesblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/tiara.jpg
http://www.boxerbreed.info/images/dogbreeds/070506123140pt.jpg
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/94/233470598_aee551c4f9.jpg
http://my-cat.org/wp-content/uploads/norwegian-forest-cat.jpg

One word:

-Improvise-

arucart
04-04-2010, 03:21 PM
is the length of the torso right in this picture

http://img340.imageshack.us/i/photo388.jpg/?

Hamst3rdanc3
04-05-2010, 03:19 AM
Yes, torso is ok. Just her shoulders are lil off from each other, other being more wide than the other. You might try to fix that ;)

Oh and one way to make pics alive is not to draw only one line but many, and on a same spot. Do not move the pen back and forth, only from up to down, not back. Strenghtening lines on "crossroads" works wonders, as in make the lines sligtly bolder, and getting more thin towards the center of a line.

arucart
04-10-2010, 03:50 PM
started a portfolio for the assignment and here it is

http://sw000372.daportfolio.com/

i've started colouring them in photoshop not too great at it yet

arucart
04-14-2010, 03:52 PM
just needed some help with this dynamic pose/foreshortening for this picture im trying to have a person being hit by the kick and finding it a bit hard and getting the skirt on while kicking

also alot of updates here any comments welcome, its all criteria for a part of a course

Wintermute
04-14-2010, 04:06 PM
Be sure to watch your symmetry. In your pictures, some of the shots expose a lot of miss-symmetry in areas such as the face and torso. If you want to be sure things are symmetrical, feel free to split your picture down the middle, copy one side, flip it, and paste it on the other. Flipping your entire picture (Edit => Transform => Flip Horizontal in Photoshop) can also really help in exposing problems with symmetry.

Good luck. b

Hamst3rdanc3
04-16-2010, 06:50 AM
The "thing" you're missing currently is "seeing objects in 3D". Foreshortening yourself with the help of a big mirror is an excellent practice for the whole subject. Also different games that are 3D and where you can rotate the camera with free will, will do the trick also. Learning to observe the surroundings will take time, but will help alot.

As for the foreshortening in the picture, the thigh looks like it's directly from the sideview, but the foreshortening of the whole leg looks like it's very badly twisted overall.

Here's the thing: one single line changing, can change it all to how it's supposed to be.

That line, is the pant's line that determines where the pant stops and the bare skin starts. It's straight, which makes it look directly from the sideview when it's supposed to be curvy to make 3D look towards the viewer/receiver of the kick.

Since I was bored, I did the few seconds long TOILET PAPER EXAMPLE for you.

arucart
03-12-2011, 08:08 PM
So started drawing again
http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/188267_1882347386250_1468302222_32130616_7972088_n .jpg :D

Hands i'm still working on, feet i've not started on
Taking it slow and trying to get to grip with every bit one at a time

Bloodrose
03-12-2011, 08:46 PM
one of the best tools for showing off "dynamics" of drawing, is to find either an online guide, or one in paperback, so you'll have a physical copy to find instructions, diagrams, and reasoning.

El Grapadora
03-13-2011, 10:47 AM
Getting some of the Loomis pdf floating around the internet is always a great idea. He's got great info packed into them.

arucart
03-13-2011, 04:06 PM
Basically i'm trying to do a drawing a day
http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/199156_1878358046519_1468302222_32124910_4832316_n .jpg

arucart
03-15-2011, 07:42 PM
http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/181546_1862360806598_1468302222_32100019_4550218_n .jpg

arucart
03-23-2011, 05:53 PM
ritsu attempt

http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/198131_1903984407162_1468302222_32163204_3311682_n .jpg

the face seems too long and this seems to happen in most of my drawings :/

El Grapadora
03-23-2011, 09:19 PM
I still recommend good old Loomis study before diving into the world of manga. A good foundation of drawing from life is extremely valuable when going on a stylized path, and will help remove inconsistencies in your art.

arucart
03-25-2011, 04:40 AM
Cheers for all the advice :)

http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/190746_1907276929473_1468302222_32167043_1405797_n .jpg

Hamst3rdanc3
03-25-2011, 01:12 PM
It also depends on your pose while you're drawing. Stuff like this: Is your paper straight compared to your position? Do you hold the paper on table where the upper part is further away from you than the lower end? If that's the case, I recommend a paper wide book or art folder under the paper, and you hold it on your lap leaning against the table edge. That would keep the whole picture in a straight view and you don't get stretched out proportions that much.

Bloodrose
03-25-2011, 06:01 PM
One tip, for drawing is to draw on a raised surface, so you are staring at the piece of paper dimensionally, rather than flat against, say, a desk. One cheap, or relatively cheap tool to use is gather some spare books, and a solid surface, usually a spare piece of manilla tag paper and a thin, but sturdy piece of wood.

I personally went out to a furniture store and bought myself a little laptop accessory, an adjustable lap tray, which works just as well as an art board. They also say to use as much natural sunlight when drawing, as well as a flourescent.

Meckruco
03-26-2011, 12:42 AM
i know i cant draw anything more than stick figures. but i do cheer on those people that strive to bring the gift of art to us all. keep working and i know you can do it.

arucart
04-16-2011, 10:46 AM
i know i said i'd be posting daily but uni decided to throw three deadlines at me at once so i've been hammering hose out but heres one I got to do

http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/216078_1954603632611_1468302222_32231403_3918492_n .jpg
<3 vegeta

Aluus
04-20-2011, 03:22 PM
I've been spending too much time on 4chan. My first impression was to think that was Rule 34 of some sort on Vegeta

arucart
04-20-2011, 05:58 PM
Sadly not this time