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Corrderio 08-25-2006 03:17 PM

Are good players becomming a rare thing for anyone else?
 
I just left 3 EXP PTs and only gained roughly 500 EXP in the last 5 hours ><

Seriously, why do people keep going after big kills that nearly kill the PT, don't ever do any research and wear shit gear, and never SC or MB?

Gulkeeva 08-25-2006 03:18 PM

Its mainly the lower lvl pt's...

It sucked pretty bad till around lv 56 for me when pt's were doing atleast 6K an hour TaU ONRY

15% exp bonus gogog

Corrderio 08-25-2006 03:20 PM

I'll never get BLU to 45 ><

Kickern 08-25-2006 03:24 PM

My best party I was ever in was made by Lordandy and we went to the staging point at Bhaflau Thickets and chain killed everything in sight... and I got lvl 75 in that pt! 8)

Corrderio 08-25-2006 03:25 PM

In all honesty I hate TP/Mana burn PTs, I think they're the reason for horrible players

Kickern 08-25-2006 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Corrderio
In all honesty I hate TP/Mana burn PTs, I think they're the reason for horrible players

Heh, I've heard about insane exp/hr from burn pts, but as a whm, I never got into one and did just fine with normal pts. :wink:

Corrderio 08-25-2006 03:29 PM

Well this is what I notice from ppl that do TP/Manaburns...

1) TP burn ppl will never SC and use their WS every time they hit 100 TP

2) Manaburns will cast their biggest nukes at the start and can't time a MB worth shit

Kickern 08-25-2006 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Corrderio
Well this is what I notice from ppl that do TP/Manaburns...

1) TP burn ppl will never SC and use their WS every time they hit 100 TP

2) Manaburns will cast their biggest nukes at the start

Well yeah, that is sorta the point of burn parties...

Corrderio 08-25-2006 03:32 PM

Yeah, but they'll do that in non-burn PTs I mean

Kickern 08-25-2006 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Corrderio
Yeah, but they'll do that in non-burn PTs I mean

Oh, hehe yeah that is pretty bad then.

Hadrubient 08-25-2006 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Corrderio
Well this is what I notice from ppl that do TP/Manaburns...

1) TP burn ppl will never SC and use their WS every time they hit 100 TP

2) Manaburns will cast their biggest nukes at the start and can't time a MB worth shit

Yeah, I've had quite a few bad parties at lv. 61 before. What was really bad is you look at the party setup and think alright this looks like it's going to be a good party, then you sit there scratching your head trying to figure out what the hell is going on.

I mean some party setups can be so perfect yet without the SC and MBs you see your exp/hr ending up around 1k-2k and the rest of the party thinks it's excellent exp? :? Only reason is because they are seeing these 325exp a kill and such.

Then the good parties that know wtf they are doing and you are getting 5k-9k an hour. Those are great parties, they are so hectic to it's tough keeping up. I also burn what would of been a days worth of arrows for the crappy party in a few hours.

Best I can do to somewhat improve those that do #1 is if I notice them playing like it's a TP burn, then I force a SC with them. I know my weapon well enough that no matter which WS they do I can often SC to it for a decent bonus. I especially love it when it gets those Transfixtion SCs if we have a bad Mage too, always get that TP burn guy intrested to SC when he see's a SC doing double his damage (At least it has for me anyway).

If only I can find a way to get something similar forced from a MB and can get those crappy parties running better then.

Corrderio 08-25-2006 03:57 PM

If you have a bad PT do what I do...

Unplug your cable and play something else xD

Dralid 08-25-2006 04:01 PM

Yes... I rather blame that on the "lvl75 do it, so it should work here too!"... some think they can emulate perfectly the lvl75 burns parties.. which is sad. (Go Go Dune War/nin!)

I've been lfp constantly on my lvl53 drk during the last 2 week and barely got 3 parties. Out of those parties, it was either PLed (yes... that's sad), no SC order despite having a blm in, no restriction from the DDs(i.e. spamming WS), etc, etc...

Its odd how people got lazy or something...

Moral of the story: lvl Bst and leave the idiots screw themselves >.>

Corrderio 08-25-2006 04:05 PM

Hell, I gave up on leveling my PLD because of TP burns, but yeah I'm sick of seeing ppl sub NIN @ 10.... what's the damn point?

Kickern 08-25-2006 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Corrderio
Hell, I gave up on leveling my PLD because of TP burns, but yeah I'm sick of seeing ppl sub NIN @ 10.... what's the damn point?

Haha, that is the dumbest thing for a PLD to do. Especially when they can't do anything useful at lvl 10 (no dual wield or ninjitsu at all, as well as the usual provoke from WAR sub.)

Corrderio 08-25-2006 04:41 PM

Trust me, PLD sucks ass to find PTs for ever since ppl did burn PTs in ToAU.

Kickern 08-25-2006 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Corrderio
Trust me, PLD sucks ass to find PTs for ever since ppl did burn PTs in ToAU.

Always seems like everyone favors ninja over paladin for tanks. :roll:

Hadrubient 08-25-2006 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Kickern
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Originally Posted by Corrderio
Trust me, PLD sucks ass to find PTs for ever since ppl did burn PTs in ToAU.

Always seems like everyone favors ninja over paladin for tanks. :roll:

Actually I still love PLDs over NIN, but also for EXP I do go as RNG/WAR. Usually a good Sidewinder -> Rampage as RNG/WAR kills anything poor Mage hardly gets to land his MB sometimes.

When those don't kill the mob only a PLD seems to have the capability to hold hate after an attack like that.

Corrderio 08-25-2006 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Kickern
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Originally Posted by Corrderio
Trust me, PLD sucks ass to find PTs for ever since ppl did burn PTs in ToAU.

Always seems like everyone favors ninja over paladin for tanks. :roll:

Why not? NIN can do tons of damage without having to worry about their DEF.

SE really needs to kill of a NIN's tanking or DD ability or give PLD a kick ass set of DD gear, they gave WHM their own version of a haub after all >.>

Dammerung 08-25-2006 06:26 PM

PLD have access to a good amount of DD stuff, they just don't use it often enough in merits.

RDM now have Phalanx2, which is a phenomenal spell. It lets PLD tank merits with ease, just a Regen3 is enough to keep them healthy.


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